Pasted as rich text. From there, I would go through the things listed on this website! gu shan qu 10.5deg.myquestion is it had a weird sound.he said he paid 500 in 2010 will sell it 150.good deal or pass? Keep up the good work!! So today we are going to show you 10 ways not to get scammed when you are purchasing equipment online. NS History: 3 changes on 3 unique name servers over 4 years. they are counterfeit and fake and wont deliver all your order!! As the saying goes once bitten twice shy. Sorry to say, very screw. Looks way to good to be true, but let me know. Though the U.S. economy loses out on the input, both direct and indirect of that production in the U.S. GDP, then the U.S. government is sent to spend millions in resources to protect the companies ability to do so. Thanks for the reply Schmidty. stay away from this seller,, the-tour-van,, quite a joke, guy working out of his apartment flipping stuff he buys from china and ebay, quite the joke, fake shafts, pulls, etc has no industry knowledge and here things about this dude constantly on every golf website there is. if you are not satisfied with the quality, we can give you a full refund under the condition that the product is perfectly good and you ship it back by yourself. If you buy from the right guy these clubs are coming direct from the factory. Great site with alot of information. Thx, For sure u can get fake stuff on eBay, but if u got it- dont forget about the return policy. I 19:42:52, There would rarely no difference,sir It all started when foundries overseas started to get the majority of the golf club production business from the United States. Only selective Miura's have the "GENUINE" in print. Does anybody know? Hi, very interesting comments, I was hoping someone could help me, I use a site called http://www.brandgolfclubs.com and they say they only sell oem golf clubs, does this mean that the clubs have came from the real makers, i.e, I am after some vokey spin milled wedges so would these have been made by titleist and be the real I AM if you like or could they be copies. The New TB-Zero Blade has no offset in the short iron. The KM 700 irons are truly works of art. Most all the product development goes on here in the west. Didn't take much research to firm that up. There's a good chance that fake miuras are sold on ebay/aliexpress/dhgate that have no visually discernible difference from legit ones. I bought pxg irons because at least they are assembled by the engineers not mad produced by companies that pay the workers a ridiculous low wage. Very bad ones at that. I wouldn't worry about your Retros, the pic of one looks legit to me. Some of the fakes are awfully good, but I think the surest way to tell is the large amount of camber found on the fakes. Is a good place to shop. Counterfeit will not have normal bag chatter because they are made out of cheaper metal. Thank you. I cant put with my real Odyssey, and dont want to shell out 180 on the real thing. So I cancelled the dispute but adviced Paypal that they were selling fake Ping clubs. Branding and lofts will be in a slightly different location on the club head. I get my thrills in more conventional ways, but that is beside the point. We do try our best to make everyone happy. The site claims to be selling the clubs at the wholesale price that golf retailers buy them at. I was generally thinking that I wanted to find the best price on them, but that less than 50% of MSRP was a red flag. Has anyone used this site they say they ship from usa but still not sure if the clubs are fake. I am so glad I found your website and within minutes I had my answer. TL;DR, Dont cry for the golf companies; protecting their profits costs U.S. jobs and taxpayer money. Would like to know if this is true and are they selling genuine or fake clubs. I just won an auction for $120 from GolfBestBuy-usa. Yes I had read that article previously. EmperorPenguin Direct from Taylormade (or just about anywhere else authorized) they are 799, free shipping. Also, the site didnt have a phone number to contact and the grammar was suspect All of our staffs here are ready to be your service agent. If held side by side with an authentic club, it will be easy to identify the counterfeit golf club because of the inferior quality. Should I consider these to be legit? They figure it will make it look more authentic I suppose. Fax : 86-010-2994895-111 sale, wl Miura Golf - Irons Rob, http://www.salegolfcentre.com He sells this club among some others, let me know what ya think please? Were there some of the fake sales that were at a higher price, in order not to suspect that the clubs are fake. Factory-golf.com #4-#9 PW, SW and AW all for $339. I bought a Ping G30 5-wood from Aliexpress for $75.00 US (normally sells for over $150.00) from this seller ALBTROSS GOLF CLUBS in mainland China. found a website called http://www.hygolfcn.com. Money that I would have blown by being scammed then having to go out and do it right the second time. You say you have purchased thousands of items from Rockbottom. Has anybody purchased golf clubs from igolftimes.com? I buy Chinese clubs. How do you even remotely justify that?? Your previous content has been restored. United States, Domain Name: 2NDSWING.COM The bottom of the club is more rounded and the bottom grooves starts slightly higher on the face. OKAY, After reading through these endless amounts of complaints and questions I thought I would give everyone a rule-of-thumb: IF THE GOLF CLUBS ARE FROM CHINA, THEY ARE FAKE!!! Scammers. There are a couple of manufacturers that allow you to register your clubs on their website. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Thank you so much for interesting in our clubs and website. What would you say is a reasonable price? These folks seem to be legitimate. China and Taiwan began to get almost all the work in regards to golf club manufacturing about 2 decades ago. The chance here is that they got screwed and are passing the screwing on, but you weed that out when you check the pics and ask the questions. Its called Karma. While they are both added to the club with a laser, the font on the counterfeit is larger. tel: Whatever it is, I'm hooked on it shamelessly. A magnet will not stick to a titanium driver, but it will to a counterfeit steel driver. Fake Miura Golf Clubs. These mistakes were all subtle but prevented adjustment of the club face and loft to the desired position. Does anybody know hotsale.com? New York, NY 10018 well seeing the website and knowing has been posted from hong kong i can tell you are fake!!! If you can please send us your address we can send you a brown paper bag. And this was all brought about due to fixed pricing by the manufacturer. the typical service jobs that are all that remain for Americans). Feel sad, very embaressed. The seller is Designer Golf Apparel and equipment, for location they have east coast of US, and they also have NO RETURNS on the listing. Sometimes I feel like people red these articles and might never use the info. These are definitely NOT OEM. Admin Organization: Chen Sun The finish is different with the face looking much different than the rest of the club on the counterfeit. Province/State : WG http://www.stores.ebay.com/proshopjj Do you really need any more clues. tons of guys getting burned by this guy. If you want the clubs and they are good deal buy them why worry about the price, thats Rockbottoms issue. That annoyed us very much because we had gone to great trouble to supply you with the very latest golf clubs. As a result, it tops the charts of the best fake golf clubs set. Mizuno asked if they could keep them to pursue legal action against the companies in the US and China that the clubs came from, but I have not heard from Mizuno at all. I dont think I am going to pull the trigger with them, and if I were you- put them throught the ringer before you take the plastic off the clubs. The best way to put counterfeiters out of business is to educate buyers on how to avoid buying their products. Must be a very big price mark-up on clubs if you can buy a counterfeit for 300 % cheaper. Why dont I send you some cash instead?Will 2000 do? Report counterfeit: http://www.counterfeitalertnetwork.com.au or http://www.ic3.gov. golfonlinehotsale.com, Avoid Like The PlagueCOUNTERFEIT TAYLORMADE CLUBS, AVOID http://WWW.GOLFONLINEHOTSALE.COM. Expensive lesson! has anyone bought any knock off sets of ping G15 and had good quality? the clubs look legit all the details look really good, but the grips do have a rubber smell to them. $3,200. keit. Country: China I think I just stumbled on another sham site. Serial number , well they said when I get my clubs i can check to the serial numbers. I just purchased the Callaway X20 irons from http://www.hurricanegolf.com and received an email right away with reference numbers and order information. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Registrant Name: Brandgolfclubs a) color of paint on the head is almost impossible to compare unless you have two clubs side-by-side because of the differences in lighting and cameras. I dont want to take a chance. It has no physical address, some of literature on the website is in pidgin English, telephone number is only for taking orders and amazingly they claim to have sold 10 million sets of clubs. Why? Has anyone dealt with this site? Your previous content has been restored. Same story as mine. I want to bid on some mizuno mx 200 irons and would like to know if you think hes legit. Why would you want to make a comparison with Rockbottomgolf.com when Rockbottomgolf has previously admitted it does not receive golf clubs through the authorised channels provided by the makers of such big brands as Titleist, Ping, Callaway, Mizuno, Taylormade, Cobra etc? how about http://www.golfdiscounting.com/? Bill Street3: 576K subscribers in the golf community. Hard to tell from the website itself, but the prices.no way. Bill Organization: Brandgolfclubs Just wanted to pass the word that GolfEtail can be trusted as a reliable source for authentic clubs. If they are willing to break the law on import tax, I wouldnt trust the product. Please dont worry about the quality, because our clubs are made with the same technology and mould. Anyone had any dealings with garagesalegolf on ebay? Bill Email: Good detective work! Today I refused the pkg and I will refute any charges he may apply. I have a few sets of genuine, which are just sandblasted in the notch. Phone: (585) 230-9113 But first, we want to give you the background on how this whole illegal operation all got started and why it is so rampant right now. http://www.cobragolf.co.uk/dealer-locator. Whois Record, Domain name: brandgolfclubs.com Upload or insert images from URL. Really Dwayne. Retail stores such as, Golfsmith, Golf Galaxy, and others must sign pricing agreements with the manufacturer before they are allowed to sell their clubs. . I live in the Netherlands and I want to buy a set of irons (Callaway X-22 ) on the following websites: I dont think English is their first language. The reviews available on their website are reassuring but its still a guess. Im pretty suspicious of them, would appreciate any feedback. I am thinking of buying a set of x22 irons from http://www.golfdealonline.com any news on this website are the legit looks like great prices.. claim OEM? They are not likely real. And once i asked the online chat for refund they go offline. I visited a dealer at a flea market where he displayed a sign claiming to be an ADAMS distributre, but offered to sell a set of A12OS irons at a wholesale price. I have played Taylormade all my life and should have known better when I saw teh price. Based on that, my take would be that they are legit and clubs are authentic with that much trade they clearly have buying power and hence probably get clubs at bulk rates. How do you identify fake Miura wedges? - GolfWRX Hi All, great discussion. Thanks Dave, A lot of the companies that were offering fake clubs were advertising on Google Adwords. discountgolfdirect1, thegolfmarket, hurricane_golf. How????? I should probably be more weary of the fake club thing because some guy from FLA tried to scam me on a fake mizuno 6 iron last summer. I have been in contact with a gentleman from online store called Golf Mart. Registrant Organization: Chen Sun I have taken the time to read all of the posts and am astounded that some many people are asking the same thing- is this club offered at 25% of the normal retail price a fake-duh? Cheers. So they have totally misrepresented themselves when they registered their domain. Organization : Joe Citra Buying from a reputable retail store and yes paying a little extra not only gives you peace of mind, but the clubs are under warranty for 1-2 years as well. A legitimate seller of OEM clubs? Fantatastic Website and great comments, the problem is that it seems no one actually can verify that the clubs are from a legititmate OEM or not or just a company that possibly produces some part of the end product and uses the certification for evil purposes, (Not at least until its too late and your money has left the account).Im a very careful buyer, probably too careful but I do have an eye for a bargain and it seems to me that if your careful then you may be lucky. No reason to suspect that the club I bought is a counterfeit, especially considering the great distance Im getting off the tee since using it. too good! Thanks! Here is the whois info for them. Its another mass produced Chinese fake ripoff promise them anything website. The physical signs seem good, but Im still afraid. Speaking of security, notice that when you go to the page that asks you to put in most of your personal information that it is NOT secure. itaintpretty has about 15,000 feedback w/ 99% positive feedback. I actually discet them with my chop saw to check the insides then box up and store. A LIKE NEW set, 5-PW, is selling for $380. Once I do if I see anything suspicious I will be going through PayPal to resolve it fully. Normally, the counterfeit serial numbers are in a different font and specifically a larger font. Email : Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that their phone number is a Chinese phone number. them back but would very expensive. THEY NEVER EVEN SHIPPED MY FAKE DRIVER. Ill post any further response from them. A lot of local pros wont even touch a counterfeit. Has anyone heard anything about http://www.greatsalegolf.com, the deals seem too good to be true. Glad you enjoyed it John. I spoke with their online help and see the result: Nicole 20:21:24 I had a unique thought.. Is it possible that OEM businesses have contrived this web site to insure their profits are kept high?? Registrant City: Xiamen The special toe-cut grind works in tandem with the design of the hosel to keep the CG nice and low. Here is their reply: As our clubs will be directly shipped from our supplier, so we cant send the serial numbers to you. Beware, the clubs may be new, and from the factory that makes legit clubs during the day, however, they dont claim to be OEM quality. Or am I just being paranoid now and should trust what the store sells?? , knowing after a winning bid, you will get the genuine products. I actually hit the clubs pretty good on my one trip before the cold weather set in again and would not mind keeping them at a greatly reduced price. Unfortunately, the increase in golf's popularity has pushed counterfeiters to make more fake club heads, shafts, grips, golf balls, bags and headcovers. Thanks for adding us Spanky Yeah the stores are a much more reputable place to buy clubs these days. Also, heads in plastic=fake. Counterfeit Titleist AP2 712 Iron. It is obvious that if a clubhead is enlarged and made of steel, its playing characteristics will be outside normal tolerances of club design. proshop-JJ sells FAKE golf equipment! The real Mizuno does not sell heads only. My clubs arrived in great shape and I had actually talked to one of the guys at the shop at garagesalegolf before they shipped as I had inquired about a speedier shipment and they called me to try to rush it out (I ended up choosing the normal route which still arrived a couple of days faster than I thought it would). I think those are the guys that are also selling fake Miura irons too. San, Alaska 99504 dealer of callaway clubs, so I think there is avoid the fakes, buy Adams Golf equipment. Any help would be appreciated. I 00:12:48 I just purchased a set of x-22 irons on ebay from a seller named tim theputterman on ebay. I didnt think it would be dumb question to ask based on the photos, especially regarding the differences with the numbers and MC-501 Logos. ns2.cnolnic.com. I would trust them and definitely buy from them again. Call 800-588-9836. If you ship these to me she is going to have my balls for breakfast. Each of our test panels vary in size and scope so we can't guarantee that everyone will be selected to participate. Hi PeterTGW.com is legit. Prices are great, but as always, if it sounds too good to be true. My friend went to the address given in Central Hong Kong They also said they regulate their prices according to the volume of products and that a lot of these prices will end at the end of April. It seemed to hit ok, but was very heavy. Spurred on by an investment by 8AM Golf (the parent company of True Spec Golf, Golf.com, and others) in 2017, Miura, the Japanese manufacturer of premium forged clubs, this week announced a new collaboration with golf lifestyle company LinkSoul.The Miura + LinkSoul Color Theory Iron set is the company's latest attempt to increase its appeal and reach in a market now densely populated with . So we are able to provide such competitive price. Taylormade spends millions on marketing through pga golfers, stop slandering the asians because they are fighting slave labor. Does anyone know about this? I have purchased equipment from EBay, Hurricane Golf, TGW, Golfio and Rock Bottom Golf. Intersting topic. 1) The club head sizes were too large; 2) the head covers were made of plastic not leather; 3) the shaft lengths were too long for a 3 & 5 wood; 4) the shaft graphics were wrong; 5) the grips were colored when they should have been simple black; 6) the club weight were too heavy; 7) the shafts should have been Blur 70 not 60 (the driver shaft); 8) the serial numbers were not registered with Taylormade and blurry; 9) they used a cheap ill-fitting gasket under the face angle plate with a slightly discolored red plate; and 10) they misaligned the shaft and club head so the the 5 wood loft angle was more than 19 degrees in the neutral position. can you confirm i got ripped off at http://www.discountgolfwholesale.com ? paid $250.00 Used. they really do feel unique. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google, (your email address will not be published), ENTER TO WIN! Province/State : WG Also, the magnet did not stick to the club face, so if its a knockoff, its a pretty damn good one. Oh dear I am another sucker, it all seems legit until you hit the order button. Great forum just wish i had researched a bit more before falling for a set of Callaways from Topgolfmall for AUD1650. It looks,feel and smell like the real thing, shaft indicate it was made in China and head assemble in USA. welcome to visiting our website, is there anything I can do for you? The only loss you will suffer is you wont be able to wave that name brand club around for all to see. Beware of a chinese website golfforsales.com Unfortunately ordered a TaylorMade Burner and it arrived with the shaft crushed at the grip end. I do have 2 questions for you if you do not mind. Bill Organization: Chen Sun Has anyone puchased any clubs from GolfDiscount.com? Show underlying registry data for this record, Current Registrar: XIAMEN ENAME NETWORK TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION LIMITED DBA ENAME CORP Registrant: Looks like Im just another victim of fraud. So if it doesnt have an American serial number, that doesnt make it fake. I have bought a number of clubs from various ebay sites and havent been ripped off yet. Did you also notice they said golf towel. Hey any word on this sitejust bought some R7 CGB MAX and now im wondering if they are fakes!!!! Currently you can by a $300 Taylormade driver and get a Scotty Cameron putter free. I purchased a set of FT-ibrids from him and am wondering after reading on hear if they are authentic. Can someone explain how a respected retailer can cut supposedly fixed prices??????? TaylorMade serial numbers are normally put on with a laser and are smooth to the touch just like most counterfeit clubs.