They have the right to talk about it. We will review the memorials and decide if they should be merged. Sorry you cannot accept that makes him look very bad. Toggle navigation MENU. If you THINK someone is an asshole because of their callous actions, it's very likely they ARE an asshole. Use Escape keyboard button or the Close button to close the carousel. That was cute. He DID write a stupid article that pissed on his sister's suicide. Good. Amy and I went through a box of pictures and chose what we thought might make the perfect obituary photo . Because if anyone thinks that the content I've shared here promotes the idea that "David should have fixed Tiffany" because he was rich & famous, is mistaken. Thanks - I was just trying to say I totally get it why should would have done what she did. It means the mountain of bullshit you're shoveling is easy to poke fun of. She acted out. Obviously, she didn't suicide just to hurt them. He should have just said "no comment" or something along those linesif he's unable to express sympathy. It's clear you've never been close with anyone severely mentally illwhich is great! And you've PISSED at me. R102, is the area changing to a less than white shade? A bunch of strangers "advocating" for a mentally ill woman they didn't know and calling her brave while lashing out at the only members of her family who are famous and literally blaming them for her death. I hope everyone on here is taking care of themselves and I mean it even without the snootful of gin. Perhaps you're projecting. You agree that I have not expressed that opinion, yet you want me to defend or address it? [quote]He found the gesture melodramatic. Not always. He gave no indication that he cared about her--said he didn't even know her well. Not to me or a lot of other people, but to you. Some people act as if writers aren't aware of the words they use, when in fact most writers reread their work again and again to make certain each word is the one they intend to use. He was just a few years older than her. All you had to do was call her Tiff, and whatever you wanted was yours: her allowance, her dinner, the contents of her Easter basket. Why? (And clearly David was talking about ripping up the pictures.). Her leaving behind a box of shredded family photos was an added final "fuck you" to the family from her. Before accusing others of being OTT, dear, you might want to eviscerate that quality in yourself. Some of her family had been more than decent, loving and kind to her. So I don't ask her about her limp. t's a pity that it is euphemistically swept under the umbrella of "mental ilness". I wonder what the DS Troll thinks about his comments. I thought "The Rooster" made a decent living refinishing wood floors, and was raising a daughter. Receive obituaries from the city or cities of your choice. Messages for web If she sufferred from depression there is a world of help David could have oferred her. You should find out how much money Tiffany owed David, and send him the amount. Maybe he offered her a financial bribe to let it go to print? But the message is entirely your invention, R380. Not everyone copes with tragedy the same way. I certainly wouldn't sell a story about it. The boys slept in what we'd come to think of as my father's room. R160 (that's how you refer to previous poster's so that they appear correctly), he appeared to do nothing intentionally to harm her during her life. Nobody here has expressed ill will toward David Sedaris. Please reset your password. Your definition of troll is perfectly in line with your abysmal reading comprehension and your nonexistent ability to own up to your own words. It would be possible to check if there were money allocated for PR & how much. I wrote that, and it was directed to DAvid Sedaris. Then there was the cancer is funny but AIDS isn't story. You just hate that DS has totally been called out as being a dick. Comfort the family with flowers or a sympathy gift. R300 is basic compassion the new crazy? Human Memory is by definition UNreliable! It does not help to have a brother whose commercial viability depends on laying out every family member and his/her presumed defects with exaggerated glee and sense of superiority and irony. Please check your email and click on the link to activate your account. Louis Sedaris Obituary (1923 2021) Raleigh, NC The News & Observer. As a boy, he worked in his parents' magazine store . You hate women just like they hate us!!" "Discovered" would be the entirely wrong description then. I find it hard to believe anyone did. [quote]I'm surprised to see the vitriol on this thread. That's horrible. We were fairly close as kids, and had a pretty normal family - a little dysfunction but no deep ugliness. Learn more about merges. "loons." Add to your scrapbook. How is it wrong? Her mental anguish was so intolerable, she did to herself what we all fear the most. Early in his career, he worked on mainframe data storage. David sedaris, although he writes very frankly and even brutally honestly, about his family life growing up, never speaks of its emotional consequences to him and his siblings. The book is Nothing to Envy, and it is an excellent read, but so, so heartbreaking. Of course he's going to mock her. But, no, he had to talk smack about her. He found the gesture melodramatic. The illness simply made it impossible for her to feel anything but her own misery. His response was Sedaris-like; he chose to gloss over it and go about his own life. Her gesture with the photos basically said: "you're all dead to me". Fine. But these times, I suspect, coincided with whenever her internal turmoil was rising: beyond her control, beyond the control of the various psychiatric drugs and health supplements that Tiffany occasionally relied on. They give you a line so you're implicated if they're found out. We were close friends for nearly a dozen years. The drugs bit is taken out of context by the right wing Daily Mail obviously. R307 just explained my family dynamic to me. And David's New Yorker piece is a pretty accurate portrayal of living in the immediate aftermath of a suicide. I think the tickets were $50-$60 (can't remember exactly) and the reading itself was shockingly short. To an outsider it would seem wildly inappropriate, invasive, and aggressively nasty. If she was mentally unwell, it would likely have been better to leave her out of the books, no? She might have lived with roommates. People simply aren't as one-dimensional as some of the shriekers in this thread want to believe. The family isn't all that great. You can rely on us to provide a comfortable environment for friends and loved ones. He might as well have rolled his eyes and said "Mary!" A native of Cortland, New York, Lou was the son of Diamante and Hercules Sedaris, both from Apethia in Southern Greece. She was mentally ill and she took her life. Hello and thank you for registering. She deserved a better life. They shouldn't have sent her off to that terrible shit hole. It sounds like her parents didn't do right by her. I'm sorry if I asked you if you were bullied as a child, called you a misogynist barbarian, and compared you to the Westboro Church. At worse, it suggests someone who's pathological. This relationship is not possible based on lifespan dates. It'd be like Amy Winehouse going to rehab. Echovita offers a solidarity program that gives back the funds generated to families. But, if you grow up in that kind of environment, it can be hard to understand why an outsider might be bothered by it. Sorry! Echovita Inc is a registered trademark. Resend Activation Email. Did you even read the story? He knows exactly what he's doing. From the New Yorker article. Her story is very sad, but blaming her wretched existence on the most visible member of her dysfunctional family is as pointless as it is wrongheaded. It's despicable. A good author would lay enough bread crumbs around so the reader could figure it out, or at least have a few motivations to contemplate. There where 6 more pieces of the pie chart that weren't shown. It wasn't right. Failed to remove flower. He sold out his family for it. Mocking her after her suicide is absolutely the lowest that a person could go. As soon as I read his shocking comment about how "melodramatic" her final act was, I knew for certain that he had complete disdain for her. His little sister. R390 is attributing things to ME that I did not write. This whole thread makes me sad. And you'd do the same for Dorothy Kilgallen while you were at it. I'm sure it will make a fabulous story!! . His brother is the guy who never got it together, still lives around town sustaining himself and his addictions with odd jobs. Whatever mistakes the family made, she never came to terms with it and the resentments followed her to her end. Hang in there, if not for yourself at least for your dog. The whole thing sort of portrays Tiffany not as part of the family who was shaped by the family she was in, but someone who somehow rejected the family, and her rejection of the family was because she was warped, poor thing, and clearly not a reflection of the Sedarises. "Poor Tiffany. If he hadn't been cruel after this tragedy, this thread would not exist. Get a fucking grip. Seriously, a marijuana leaf- drawn in the late 70s- is as indicative of someone becoming an addict as a peace sign from the 60s was indicative of someone becoming a preist. [quote]t's a pity that it is euphemistically swept under the umbrella of "mental ilness". Let's say something awful happened to the sister - perhaps something happened at the school mentioned, or more likely, before. If it makes you feel better, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. Most people here did not, obviously, read the piece in The New Yorker. I was her friend. IMO, he did piss on his little sisterbitching about her tearing up a photo, or not paying him back. Of course she left a note, which they've suppressed. A writer like Sedaris meticulously crafts his sentences and has no problem painting himself (and at times, his family) as a difficult person to know, if not an outright neurotic mess. You are not addressing the topic at hand. 'Joking' that you'll never get back the money you gave a sister who just committed suicide, in a public forum, is sick behavior AT BEST. So cover up the family's complicity by making her out to be a drug addict. Right. Doesn't have to directly hurt anyone. Everything he's written has been focused on himself. Maybe he even killed her. Photos larger than 8Mb will be reduced. It's him trying to cope with the aftereffects of his sister's death. I believe the story of the kids going through the suitcase and showing up at dinner with the clothes on. The line about melodramatic seems nasty when out of context, but in the greater context of the article, it really fits with him reaching for an explanation of something that, quite frankly, cannot be explained. Aw, hang in there, 346. It requires courage. It's been suggested here (repeatedly) that Tiffany was the family scapegoat. She is mentally ill. And everyone, even her family, treats her like a monster. You won't be happy til David himself commits suicide. He's such a back stabber. He's like a rock star. Imo, it did not come off wellin fact, I think we can all agree, as displayed in this thread, that his comments after TS' suicide were polarizing & controversial. when checking for breathing and you hear gasps; isakmp protocol number; roadhouse gold steak sauce recipe Great poat, r462. My aunt doesn't like to talk about her polio. It's despicable. Perhaps you can say I've attacked "DS", but he's not anonymous. Seriously. Here are Heartfelt messages from people on social media: Lou Sedaris died, he was 98. I was the last person on this earth to speak with Tiffany Sedaris. None of us know what went on in that family. -. I imagine it would become alienating if one is more on the sensitive side. cemeteries found in Raleigh, Wake County, North Carolina, USA will be saved to your photo volunteer list. [quote]Let's stop accusing him of exploiting his "fucked up" family for money. I don't think it's fair to call David or Amy sociopaths for not understanding how to deal mental illness. How easy is it to roll over and fall back asleep? She was on disability. Try again later. We are changing the login scheme for contributors for simpler login and to better support using multiple devices. It rips you in half to the point where you don't know yourself anymore. I want to be free to define myselfestablish my own identity. I have not read much about it outside of here.When I first read the New yorker piece I thought I'm getting my period or something.I googled "David Sedaris sociopath" and got nothing.I came to Datalounge and yes! Drag images here or select from your computer for Louis Harry Sedaris memorial. His tone was really nasty, and I was chilled. 0 cemeteries found in Raleigh, Wake County, North Carolina, USA. Or the grocery store. R290, "Cheap Psychology 101" is the other name for DL. I love his work so I'm surprised to see the vitriol on this thread. Laid it all out. But you can form your own familyyou already have a pet that loves and needs you. Not everyone can afford to help out a down and out relative but when you have enough money to own three houses why not at least get your own sister a decent one bedroom apartment. No, r136. Still, post your cock pics. Or the gas station. In one of his stories he wrote that he and Amy spent a good half hour re-watching a clip of a guy getting kicked in the balls (by a dominatrix, I think). I'm enjoying the "Dude, chill." Later in the day, Amy Sedaris posted again asking that poster how she can reach her. MeI have a good job, but need a break from itso I like to debate here. . He followed up by ripping himself for only being concerned about how much money they were worth rather than how beautiful they were. I trust what my gut tells me about a person's character, not some psycho-babble, Dr. Phi horse shit. It hurt her hen she was alive. Trashing the successful non-hot gay man. It's so exhausting when the obvious mental health cases overrun the site. It's hysterical that R208 can't see the IRONY! You need a Find a Grave account to continue. He didn't lose me as a fan, because I was never a fan. Surprise, surprise. [all posts by tedious, racist idiot removed.]. how strong is jesus in record of ragnarok Please repeat this phrase until it finally sinks in: He writes in "Let it Snow" from his book "Dress Your Family in Corduroy and Denim" about the mother locking the kids out of the house one day. Nobody's talking about her isolating from family reunions ;or holiday dinners when everybody was grown. You hate women just like they hate us!!" A talented, self taught artist with a child's eye for color and form, Tiffany worked in a variety of mixed media including broken bits of pottery and dishware which . It's helpful that we let him know that he's crossed some kind of linelike basic humanitycommon courtesy. You agree that I have not expressed that opinion, yet you want me to defend or address it? I wonder if he has ever considered the irony of that statement. R311, Interesting that a friend of Tiffany's posted a heartfelt remembrance of her friend and included the line about her brother refusing to help her. I'm not being confrontational or attacking. It's also a way of staving off the final acceptance that they are really gone. She was responsible for her own life and for the ending of it. This browser does not support getting your location. I've even had friends say things to me like, "oh, my brother wouldn't bust your balls if he didn't like you." Remove advertising from a memorial by sponsoring it for just $5. The most interesting people are the ones who have gone through tough times and lived to tell. Bizarre trolls come here to insult those who have soul enough to see that the article was ugly and wrong. How about some compassion? A Real Housewife was the other guest, and she just so happened to have her clutch in the seat next to her. Sharon E Leonard Sedaris (1929-1991) - Find a Grave Memorial Sister in a glass house - The Boston Globe You morons don't understand human nature any more than you do writing. R323, it's not "you're one of us, you've made the cut and you should be flattered." He sounds kind of ignorant about human behavior. And then when I asked you to provide one example of me doing so, you couldn't? I could believe she had drug problems only from the stories that David has told about his life over the years and his own addiction issuesNot from this silly anecdote. Come back to me when you take your fingers out of your ears, r389. Then why can't he just say/write that, R222? David Sedaris: 'I do mourn my dad as a character - independent Please check your email and click on the link to activate your account. - note: actual quote) but I'm thin-skinned, over-invested and stalking you for noting how unhinged you sound. cemeteries found within miles of your location will be saved to your photo volunteer list. And this is what he does? [quote] Her father had the wealth and should have had the wisdom of age to see she was in dire need to more financial assistance. I know the truth, people "bust my balls" because they are trying to put me in my place so that they can feel superior. That gets to the heart of why I think some of the remarks on this thread are way off-base, i.e. Some features on this site require a subscription. Imagine waking up in the middle of the night, as we all sometimes do, and remember, "OhI have cancer." She made that choice. Butno dice. What a cruel, condescending insult. All photos uploaded successfully, click on the Done button to see the photos in the gallery. A funeral service will be held on Tuesday, June 1 at 11:00 at Raleigh Memorial Park. Harry Brown May 23 1952 - September 5 2021 69 years old Williamstown New Jersey Harry Brown Obituary Here is Harry Browns obituary. He can't man up to them. This is NOT Craiglist!!!!! Weve updated the security on the site. Mocking her after her suicide is absolutely the lowest that a person could go. Fascinating to see some folks here defending him. Louis Legros | Obituary | The Tribune Democrat [quote]You won't be happy til David himself commits suicide. R84, Quintana died of pancreatitis. Quickly see who the memorial is for and when they lived and died and where they are buried. Okay, dude; I will let them know that if they pick my pockets after I am dead, it won't matter to me. R234 False equivalencies such as yours are the work of lazy people. It rips you in half to the point where you don't know yourself anymore. Try again later. He disrespected his dead sister, and you defend that? This American Life is not produced by NPR. But I killed her. Hang in there. cemeteries found within kilometers of your location will be saved to your photo volunteer list. Perhaps this one should be named, The House of Shame.. With over 1,900 locations, Dignity Memorial providers proudly serve over 375,000 families a year. Everything you say or don't say yourself seems wrong and you quickly stop talking about it and walk around crippled with silent pain. "Sweetheart," "that was cute, "here let me help," "it's called trolldar, dear.". David should consider the payment for his article about Tiffanys suicide to be a debt paid in full. - r390. Any of you who have experienced grief will understand this. Calling critical posters "borderline," is a favorite. August 24, 1932 - February 27, 2023 Obituary; Events ; Guestbook (1) In Memory of Louis. Tiffany's death was genuinely tragic. You may not have promoted the idea, but plenty of other people did. And obviously he still has fans, by the impassioned posts defending him here. As a boy, he worked in his parents magazine store and shoeshine shop. "WHAT A SICK FAMILY!" R64, I laughed at that myself. 452, nobody is sticking anything in your mouth here. It was strange being at the beach without him, but we didn't yet have the proper equipment: a walk-in shower, bars beside . Heck, fellow posters have been "attacked" more viciously thanbeing called a dick. The email does not appear to be a valid email address. Isn't NPR a non-profit, government/listener funded agency? I am obviously in the minority, but I have never enjoyed Sedaris's family tales. Somerville Mass is way too expensive a town for artists. There was an error deleting this problem. R311 - that's a lovely piece. He's just doing what he does. In 1941, he began his career at IBM where he stayed for 38 years working as a mechanical engineer. Raleigh, Wake County, North Carolina, USA. Do you have any personal experience of suicide, "former fan"? His sister committed suicide. More reason not to share her life stories with the world, 53. What a sick society America is. But it is also nigh impossible to deal with someone with borderline behavior. Most recently, she has appeared in both The Mandalorian (2019-2020) and The Book of Boba Fett (2022) as Peli Motto.She played Jerri Blank in the Comedy Central comedy series Strangers with Candy (1999-2000) and the prequel film Strangers with Candy (2005), which she also wrote. He's no Dan Savage. Are you adding a grave photo that will fulfill this request? I hope you have a great weekend. I guess you're pissed because you identify with him. I find it depressing and narcissistic. 225, bottom line: she didn't like him writing about her. Top films of the year :: Bay Area Reporter - Seattle Gay News Misogynists hate me! She should have been living in a trailer in Buttfuck, Arizona. she asks. Oops, something didn't work. And the years immediately after. He's either quite mentally ill in thinking that's a response the public would fins 'funny', or he's a despicable person. r2, I agree. All photos uploaded successfully, click on the Done button to see the photos in the gallery. Addiction and desperation lead people to commit suicide. Heh. There were fantastic art materials -- milk crates of angular rocks (good ones), each crate containing one round stone, which perfectly fits the hand, bearing signs of some form of unorthodox flint knapping to bash and hammer the rocks into shapes she needed; dozens of boxes of antique broken ceramics or stained glass for her mosaics, many dug out of the ground from a hidden 19th Century dump whose location she shared only with me, my favorite broken bit being the bottom part of a piece of green McCoy pottery that now only said, Coy, (pure Tiffany wit); ephemera; old CDV photos; old letters; fragments of vintage childrens books; her collection of antique baleen corsets; an original picture sleeve from the Little Richard 45, ooh! Someone posted up thread that he was sorry she didn't live to pay him back the money she owed. You walk in on somebody snorting coke at the age of twelve. She was raised in Raleigh, NC but made her home in Somerville for nearly 25 years. I thought he and his family came off odd and cold in the piece that started this thread. She was 10 times funnier than any other Sedaris, since her humor stemmed partly from living a darker, harder life on the razors edge. In high school, he was the captain of the varsity football team.